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Del Toro Leaves THE HOBBIT

Postby HGervais » Sun May 30, 2010 4:31 pm

I would link to The One Ring web site where this story comes from but I have not been able to log on to it, so here is the AICN piece. I too thought Del Toro & The Hobbit would have been amazing but who can blame anyone for jumping ship while the MGM mess shows no sign of being resolved?
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Re: Del Toro Leaves THE HOBBIT

Postby the5thghostbuster » Sun May 30, 2010 4:44 pm

Well, this sucks. Not surprised though: how long was he supposed to wait till MGM got their ___ together?
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Re: Del Toro Leaves THE HOBBIT

Postby Dimwitted » Sun May 30, 2010 5:13 pm

It's no surprise. He's hot and has a ton of projects lined up. On to the next thing.
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Re: Del Toro Leaves THE HOBBIT

Postby Jim_Thomas » Sun May 30, 2010 6:25 pm

theonering.net is STILL in full meltdown mode.
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Re: Del Toro Leaves THE HOBBIT

Postby HGervais » Sun May 30, 2010 6:40 pm

The thing which gets me is besides that I would have loved to have seen what Del Toro brought to Tolkein's world is that he has been working on The Hobbit for what...the better part of two years now....what won't we get to see from Del Toro because he ended up wasting all this time on a project?
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Re: Del Toro Leaves THE HOBBIT

Postby the5thghostbuster » Sun May 30, 2010 6:48 pm

HGervais wrote:The thing which gets me is besides that I would have loved to have seen what Del Toro brought to Tolkein's world is that he has been working on The Hobbit for what...the better part of two years now....what won't we get to see from Del Toro because he ended up wasting all this time on a project?


I wouldn't be surprised that Del Toro is thinking the same way.

They key question now is, will Jackson himself step into do the rest?
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Re: Del Toro Leaves THE HOBBIT

Postby J.M. Vargas » Sun May 30, 2010 7:59 pm

the5thghostbuster wrote:They key question now is, will Jackson himself step into do the rest?

"Jackson, who is coming off the disappointing Oscar season entry The Lovely Bones, would seem the perfect person to retake the directing reins after del Toro's exit. They've worked closely on the script, so there would be no interruption in creative continuity. Whether they bring back Raimi (who is working on World of Warcraft but hasn't committed to his next film) or give the job to a filmmaker like Jackson's District 9 protege Neill Blomkamp (he's committed to do his next project for Media Rights Capital) there would be a steep learning curve to bring Middle Earth to life. Jackson translated Tolkien's creation masterfully in the Oscar-winning Lord of the Rings trilogy. According to Kamins, it's not going to happen.

"Peter has and has had obligations and commitments to other films that would make it impossible for him to direct The Hobbit at this time, even if it was offered, which it hasn't been," Kamins told me. "I've been quietly working on setting up a film for him to direct while Guillermo would have been directing The Hobbit. What you saw in their respective statements must be taken at face value. All of that said, Peter and Fran's commitment to The Hobbit is total and they will do everything necessary to protect the franchise and the investment made by New Line, Warners and MGM."


Source: http://www.deadline.com/2010/05/del-toro-leaves-the-hobbit-and-evidently-peter-jackson-wont-be-next/.
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Re: Del Toro Leaves THE HOBBIT

Postby Steve T Power » Sun May 30, 2010 8:07 pm

The time has come and gone.

I'm thinking this one is done. Maybe in another decade.

I don't know what amazes me more, the fact that i saw this coming 18 months ago, or the fact that i'm not altogether disappointed or upset. Not that I don't think Del Toro could have knocked it out of the park (and he was definitely gonna cast Ron Pearlman as Beorn, which would have been bad-ass.)

Edit: PLEASE bring on Hellboy 3!
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Re: Del Toro Leaves THE HOBBIT

Postby HGervais » Sun May 30, 2010 8:21 pm

I mean this is a studio so strapped for cash that they are unable greenlight box office sure things like The Hobbit and the next Jame Bond movie. That ain't good.
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Re: Del Toro Leaves THE HOBBIT

Postby mkiker2089 » Sun May 30, 2010 10:31 pm

HGervais wrote:I mean this is a studio so strapped for cash that they are unable greenlight box office sure things like The Hobbit and the next Jame Bond movie. That ain't good.


And that makes it even more confusing to me. Sony has wanted Bond so bad they could taste it. Can't they give Sony part of the take on the next one, or do they insist on owning it outright or nothing. Why can't they do something similar with The Hobbit? Sell the rights but retain partial investment to give future income. It's almost as if the studio is self destructing in all directions at once. Bad decisions following bad decisions.

It'll be a shame to lose MGM. We are in an age of mega corporations on all fronts and in the end it's not good for the consumer.
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Re: Del Toro Leaves THE HOBBIT

Postby tucco » Mon May 31, 2010 1:19 am

So, best case scenario we see THE HOBBIT in 5 years?
That sucks.....people have been salivating for long enough over this.....

And James Bond films are like AC/DC records or KISS records......they will turn a profit due to core fans even if a particular installment sucks.

And too cash strapped to green light sure things.........someone please explain why they won't play a little ball with Sony and new Line?
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Re: Del Toro Leaves THE HOBBIT

Postby J.M. Vargas » Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:00 am

Warner and MGM not hurrying to sign-up a new "Hobbit" director because they're sweet-talking Jackson back into the director's chair: http://www.deadline.com/2010/06/two-studios-trying-to-talk-peter-jackson-into-helming-the-hobbit-films/.
Other filmmakers are interested in replacing del Toro. Sources tell me David Yates, David Dobkin, and the ubiquitous Brett Ratner are among them. One tricky part of the equation is the deal numbers. So much gross already has been committed on the picture that there isn't much left to give to a top-level director. Sources tell me that gross participants include the JRR Tolkien estate, Jackson, Saul Zaentz, even Harvey Weinstein, who bargained for a 5% gross stake in the original trilogy. (That happened when Michael Eisner refused to finance two LOTR films, and Weinstein gave Jackson a short turnaround window to shop the property. Jackson made the trilogy deal with Bob Shaye at New Line right before that turnaround window closed). No matter who gets the gig, they'll have to accept a creative deal or the financing studios will be hard pressed to make money.
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Re: Del Toro Leaves THE HOBBIT

Postby J.M. Vargas » Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:05 pm

Neill Blomkamp's agency rules him out as potential "Hobbit" director: http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/06/not_so_fast_middle_earth_neill.html.
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Re: Del Toro Leaves THE HOBBIT

Postby J.M. Vargas » Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:04 am

Jackson in SERIOUS negotiations with Warner and MGM to direct both "Hobbit" movies: http://www.deadline.com/2010/06/urgent-peter-jackson-negotiating-to-direct-the-hobbit-films/#more-49562
He will shortly take the reins over from Guillermo del Toro, after Jackson extricates himself from other project obligations that caused Jackson and manager Ken Kamins to initially deny he would direct.

Jackson will have his deal sweetened, but he's already completely invested in the process and there are built-in efficiencies. The films will use the soundstages and visual effects facilities that Jackson built with proceeds from the LOTR proceeds.

Pending a deal, the next step will be to discuss whether or not to shoot the films in 3D. That would beg a second discussion about transferring LOTR into 3D as well, a move that would give the trilogy a shot at another revenue cycle. These are all weighty discussions, but at least there are signs of forward motion, something that cannot be said for the other pictures that the debt-choked MGM has frozen while it figures out its future.
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Postby J.M. Vargas » Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:51 pm

Movement: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/10/the-hobbit-finally-close-to-getting-greenlight-from-warner-bros-new-line-and-mgm.html.
The two "Hobbit" films, which will be shot together, are expected to cost close to $500 million to produce. Warner and MGM have together spent about $45 million on preproduction for "The Hobbit," including script fees, visual effects work, set preparations and casting meetings, according to two people familiar with the matter.

Warner and New Line, which produced the blockbuster "Lord of the Rings" trilogy and control domestic distribution for "Hobbit," are ready to commit their half of the money, said people familiar with the matter. They have been waiting for MGM, which for more than a year has been virtually out of cash and whose debt holders have been trying to decide upon a plan for reorganization.

MGM is eager to make the films, people close to the situation said, and could give Warner Bros. the official okay in the next few days. However, it will still need to secure its half of the financing. Barber is expected to approach a number of potential investors, including studios including 20th Century Fox, which has an existing deal with MGM to release its movies overseas. Other possibilities include outside financial investors or Warner Bros., which could loan MGM its share in exchange for additional distribution rights to the pictures. People close to the project said that, barring a last-minute glitch, they expect to have all issues settled shortly in order to begin production in mid-January so that the first of the two movies would be ready for a holiday 2012 release. The second film is planned for a December 2013 opening. If production doesn't begin by the first quarter of next year, the people said, "The Hobbit" will miss its planned release dates and will likely have to once again be delayed.


Movies will be shot in 3D: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/02/movies/02hobbit.html?_r=1&hpw.
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Re: Del Toro Leaves THE HOBBIT

Postby J.M. Vargas » Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:31 pm

The f***??!! :shock: http://www.deadline.com/2010/10/the-curse-of-the-hobbit-pics-strikes-again/
Flames yesterday engulfed Peter Jackson's New Zealand workshop set which would have been used for the Tolkien movies. It took 50 firefighters three hours to quell the blaze in Wellington. All that's left now is a burned-out warehouse at Jackson's Portsmouth Miniatures Studio which had been used in the past as a specialist miniatures shooting facility, one of the few in the world, to create special effects for his The Lord of the Rings trilogy and King Kong. Meanwhile, there's still a standoff between New Zealand and Aussie actors unions, joined by SAG and AFTRA and others, and Jackson, New Line, Warner Bros, and MGM.

Mmphh, suspicious fire... labor union standoff... :? :(
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Re: Del Toro Leaves THE HOBBIT

Postby J.M. Vargas » Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:18 pm

Casting underway: http://www.deadline.com/2010/10/peter-jackson-sets-first-names-for-the-hobbit/
Martin Freeman is set to play Bilbo Baggins, the adventurous Hobbit whose adventures and discovery of the One Ring leads the story up to The Lord of the Rings. Freeman has appeared in films ranging from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and Hot Fuzz to Love Actually.

Jackson has cast several other significant Dwarf characters. Richard Armitage (MI-5 and Captain America: The First Avenger) will play Thorin Oakenshield, leader of the Company of Dwarves which sets off to reclaim the Lonely Mountain from a thieving dragon. Aidan Turner (Being Human) and Rob Kazinsky (EastEnders) will play Kili and Fili, members of the Company of Dwarves. Graham McTavish (Secretariat) will play Dwalin, John Callen (Power Rangers Jungle Fury) will play Oin; Stephen Hunter (All Saints) will play Bombur, and Mark Hadlow (King Kong) plays Dori, while Peter Hambleton (The Strip) will play Gloin.
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Re: Del Toro Leaves THE HOBBIT

Postby the5thghostbuster » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:37 pm

J.M. Vargas wrote:Casting underway: http://www.deadline.com/2010/10/peter-jackson-sets-first-names-for-the-hobbit/
Martin Freeman is set to play Bilbo Baggins, the adventurous Hobbit whose adventures and discovery of the One Ring leads the story up to The Lord of the Rings. Freeman has appeared in films ranging from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and Hot Fuzz to Love Actually.

Jackson has cast several other significant Dwarf characters. Richard Armitage (MI-5 and Captain America: The First Avenger) will play Thorin Oakenshield, leader of the Company of Dwarves which sets off to reclaim the Lonely Mountain from a thieving dragon. Aidan Turner (Being Human) and Rob Kazinsky (EastEnders) will play Kili and Fili, members of the Company of Dwarves. Graham McTavish (Secretariat) will play Dwalin, John Callen (Power Rangers Jungle Fury) will play Oin; Stephen Hunter (All Saints) will play Bombur, and Mark Hadlow (King Kong) plays Dori, while Peter Hambleton (The Strip) will play Gloin.


Sounds like a great cast. Now, as long as the rumours of Tennant and Sylvester McCoy pan out, I shall be pleased :)
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Re: Del Toro Leaves THE HOBBIT

Postby tucco » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:27 pm

I'm glad this is going to happen sooner than later......

Now if only MGM could clean up the James Bond mess.....
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