Gabriel Girard wrote:Steve T Power wrote: I still say Apocalypse Now trounces it though...
Gabriel Girard wrote: The second half doesn't feel like the ''same old, same old'' Vietnam movie for different reasons. 1. It takes place in the city instead of the jungle 2. There's more waiting around and general restlessness than in most Vietnam movies; this could be about the Iraq wars. That's what makes it a great film IMHO, it's really about war in general, not just Vietnam. The second half possesses its shares of virtuoso filmmaking and the last monolgue Joker has is a classic.
cdouglas wrote:I'm one of the few who thinks Eyes Wide Shut is a masterpiece, so you may want to take my opinion with a grain of salt.
Daryl Loomis wrote:cdouglas wrote:I'm one of the few who thinks Eyes Wide Shut is a masterpiece, so you may want to take my opinion with a grain of salt.
Cheers to that...I'm right there with you.
Steve - I think you're right that the first half needs a second half to reach its full potential, but I do think the first half works on its own terms because the second half simply is telling us things we already know. The implications are already there. That wouldn't be a problem if Kubrick had found a way to make the material in the second half engaging or had at least populated it with compelling characters (Adam Baldwin is really the only actor in the second half who leaves any kind of lasting impression), but he doesn't. Then again, I'm one of the few who thinks Eyes Wide Shut is a masterpiece, so you may want to take my opinion with a grain of salt.
Gabriel Girard wrote:But is any war movie subtle about its message? I love Platoon, but man Sheen's final monologue is so painfully obvious. Apocalypse Now isn't much subtler. To mee those three flicks succeed in their own manner and give you a different P.O.V. on the Vietnam War. I should see more of those. Don't really care for The Deer Hunter beyond the Vietnam part, LOVE Born On The Fourth Of July because it shows both the war and the post-war trauma.
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