What TV service is best?

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What TV service is best?

Postby Boba Fett » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:59 pm

After recently upgrading from expanded basic (i.e. cable line from wall to TV), to basic digital on Comcast, and just now digital with HD, we've been questioning whether Comcast is even worth the money.

Our initial move to digital was no problem at all; the receiver was small and effecient; we were able to get OnDemand stuff right away and within a few hours the onscreen guide was filled with listings.

We got our HD receiver today and although we get all our channels, none of the onscreen guides or OnDemand functions work. Of course Comcast tech support has no idea how to use their equipment (I kid you not when I say that they had me change the tv shape setting to see if that would do anything) and just want to say "It can take several hours for the on screen guide and demand functions to get an initial signal" and "we'll send out a tech tomorrow." The latter drives me nuts since I end up pissing off the techs by refusing them to touch anything I personally bought.

A friend, said I should just dump Comcast and go with DirecTV since they are more affordable and have a better HD lineup. I asked about signal outages during the rain, and he said with his dish, he only had one notworthy outage, and it was during a storm that eventually knocked out the power. My sisters BF said his dish loses signal everytime it rains any period of time.

What's my best option: stick with Comcast and if need be drop the HD until they get their act together, switch to DirecTV, or wait until Verizon gets their cable service going.

I've heard good stories about Verizon cable and how in a quite a few markets, Comcasts subscribership took a hit because people were bailing for Verizon.

It's all quite frustrating, since it's not cheap service, yet Comcast often acts like they don't care if you have service at all.
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Re: What TV service is best?

Postby Dan Mancini » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:08 am

I have Directv because:

1) Comcast's customer service was horrible. When I told them I was cancelling my service in favor of Directv, they offered to lower my rate in order to keep my business, then dropped me to a lower package so I lost channels. That was the straw that broke the camel's back. Keep in mind, I worked for about 5 years in call center environments, so I know what kind of tone to take with customer support in order to get results, when to be friendly and when to be assertive. I'm not the kind of customer who screams at the poor sap on the other end of the line or who makes unreasonable demands. I just expect a company to deliver what they promised and whay I'm paying for. They still treated me like dirt.
2) I experienced cable outages that would last a day or more, so the idea of brief outages during rain storms was actually a bonus. And trying to get Comcast to reduce my bill almost every month because of lengthy service outages was a joke.
3) Directv had WGN and I wanted more Cubs games.

Is Directv right for you? Depends. How clear a view of the Southern sky does your house have? That'll definitely affect the frequency and length of weather-related outages. For me, the weather has to be really, really bad for an outage longer than a couple minutes to happen. A long outage at our house is maybe 15 minutes.

Directv does have more HD channels (I have something like 24 channels on the basic HD package; if you buy premiums like HBO, Showtime, Starz, or the NFL or MLB packages, you get even more). My basic HD package includes the local network affiliates, strictly HD channels like HDNet, HDNet Movies, and Universal HD, and lots of standard second-tier cable channels like TBS, TNT, Animal Planet, TLC, Discovery, ESPN, ESPN2, and the Weather Channel. More channels are coming later this month, including Sci Fi, HGTV, MTV, and a others. The infrastructure for that many HD channels doesn't really exist right now (I know because I currently work in a DOCSIS engineering environment), so Directv is doing some sort of signal monkeying in order to deliver that many HD channels. I'm sure a side-by-side comparison between Directv and any major cable company would demonstrate that Directv's HD image is inferior, but I'll be honest: I don't have the capacity to do a side-by-side comparison and the picture on my display looks damned good to my eyes. Some of the channels recently added to the line-up don't look as sharp and the image quality varies from show to show, but I'm almost certain that has to do with the channels' standards and not Directv (I think some of the channels broadcast a mix of HD and SD content; shows that have to be upconverted from SD aren't as sharp). At this point, I'd rather sacrifice a tiny bit of quality for 25 HD channels than have only 8 channels (and have to deal with Comcast's sh*tty customer service).

On price, I don't think you'll find a noticeable difference between Directv and Comcast. Directv's pacakges are cheaper, but you have to pay $5/month for each additional satellite receiver, and (depending on current deals) setup costs can be higher. My Directv package is lower than what I paid for Comcast because I have a deal through BellSouth (or the new AT&T) that bundles phone, Directv, and DSL for a discounted price.
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Re: What TV service is best?

Postby mattnyd » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:20 am

I have Comcast HD and I subscribe to the absolutely most highest power they have in their asenal, every HBO, every everything. I cannot stand to have nothing to watch, and TV is the one and only luxury I afford myself in life (me and my 10 year old sneakers will be just fine, as long as I have proper cable).

My only complaint with Comcast is that I don't understand why somebody five miles down the road gets Turner Classic Movies and I don't.

I would like to have DirectTV but I live in the woods. I'll never understand how the satelitte can get from deep space to my house but it can't penetrate bark, but that aside, I'm happy with Comcast.
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Re: What TV service is best?

Postby Boba Fett » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:18 pm

Dan Mancini wrote:I have Directv because:

1) Comcast's customer service was horrible. When I told them I was cancelling my service in favor of Directv, they offered to lower my rate in order to keep my business, then dropped me to a lower package so I lost channels. That was the straw that broke the camel's back. Keep in mind, I worked for about 5 years in call center environments, so I know what kind of tone to take with customer support in order to get results, when to be friendly and when to be assertive. I'm not the kind of customer who screams at the poor sap on the other end of the line or who makes unreasonable demands. I just expect a company to deliver what they promised and whay I'm paying for. They still treated me like dirt.
2) I experienced cable outages that would last a day or more, so the idea of brief outages during rain storms was actually a bonus. And trying to get Comcast to reduce my bill almost every month because of lengthy service outages was a joke.
3) Directv had WGN and I wanted more Cubs games.

Is Directv right for you? Depends. How clear a view of the Southern sky does your house have? That'll definitely affect the frequency and length of weather-related outages. For me, the weather has to be really, really bad for an outage longer than a couple minutes to happen. A long outage at our house is maybe 15 minutes.

Directv does have more HD channels (I have something like 24 channels on the basic HD package; if you buy premiums like HBO, Showtime, Starz, or the NFL or MLB packages, you get even more). My basic HD package includes the local network affiliates, strictly HD channels like HDNet, HDNet Movies, and Universal HD, and lots of standard second-tier cable channels like TBS, TNT, Animal Planet, TLC, Discovery, ESPN, ESPN2, and the Weather Channel. More channels are coming later this month, including Sci Fi, HGTV, MTV, and a others. The infrastructure for that many HD channels doesn't really exist right now (I know because I currently work in a DOCSIS engineering environment), so Directv is doing some sort of signal monkeying in order to deliver that many HD channels. I'm sure a side-by-side comparison between Directv and any major cable company would demonstrate that Directv's HD image is inferior, but I'll be honest: I don't have the capacity to do a side-by-side comparison and the picture on my display looks damned good to my eyes. Some of the channels recently added to the line-up don't look as sharp and the image quality varies from show to show, but I'm almost certain that has to do with the channels' standards and not Directv (I think some of the channels broadcast a mix of HD and SD content; shows that have to be upconverted from SD aren't as sharp). At this point, I'd rather sacrifice a tiny bit of quality for 25 HD channels than have only 8 channels (and have to deal with Comcast's sh*tty customer service).

On price, I don't think you'll find a noticeable difference between Directv and Comcast. Directv's pacakges are cheaper, but you have to pay $5/month for each additional satellite receiver, and (depending on current deals) setup costs can be higher. My Directv package is lower than what I paid for Comcast because I have a deal through BellSouth (or the new AT&T) that bundles phone, Directv, and DSL for a discounted price.


Thanks. That more or less sells me on DirecTV. $5 for a receiver is a bargian, considering Comcast wants to charge $6-$10 per receiver here, despite our bill being around $80.

We just had two service techs out at the house, and they tried three receivers, none of them are working properly. Oddly when they hooked a DVR capable receiver the problem was remedied, but of course we couldn't keep that receiver unless we wanted to add an $11/month charge for their DVR service.
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