Terminator Salvation

[BrettCullum]

Great job Judge Fancy on the BluRay review! Glad to see someone who liked the film a little better than most critics. I thought it was a fun summer popcorn flick with motorcycle robots that KILL people and tough hot looking women. Throw in Christian Bale delivering lines in his patented gruff Camel sponsored scratchy throat voice, and it felt like a BATMAN sequel as well. What does everybody else think of it?

I have the DVD for TERMINATOR SALVATION, and there are no extras and only the theatrical cut. Seems like the studios are now firmly saving the bonus features for the HD format they want us all to start buying. I guess it worked though, because I did get a BluRay player as part of the BLACK FRIDAY deals on Amazon. I feel dirty and broken... kinda like the characters in a post apocalyptic world run by robots...

[Dan Mancini]

I don't know. I guess I've never assumed that a non-Cameron Terminator flick would be anywhere near as awesome as a Cameron Terminator flick. Given those lowered expectations, I didn't find Salvation a cinematic abortion in the least. As popcorn movies go, I thought it was much better than Transformers 2 or GI Joe.

And, yes, you are dirty and broken, Cullum. No question.

[the5thghostbuster]

I honestly think he was a little easy on the film. John Connor's presence in the film doesn't really add anything to the finished work, and distracts from the characters the film actually seems to have a vested interest in: Kyle and Marcus.

Reportedly, the role of John Connor was only built up in the script in an attempt to get Bale on board, and in the original draft he was an unseen figure until the final of the film where he was killed. Because nobody know's what Connor actually looks like, Marcus is asked to take his place. Now THAT would have been a vastly superior film.

[Boba Fett]

Great job Judge Fancy on the BluRay review! Glad to see someone who liked the film a little better than most critics. I thought it was a fun summer popcorn flick with motorcycle robots that KILL people and tough hot looking women. Throw in Christian Bale delivering lines in his patented gruff Camel sponsored scratchy throat voice, and it felt like a BATMAN sequel as well. What does everybody else think of it?

I have the DVD for TERMINATOR SALVATION, and there are no extras and only the theatrical cut. Seems like the studios are now firmly saving the bonus features for the HD format they want us all to start buying. I guess it worked though, because I did get a BluRay player as part of the BLACK FRIDAY deals on Amazon. I feel dirty and broken... kinda like the characters in a post apocalyptic world run by robots...

I think they made the director's cut a Target exlusive on SD-DVD. Same thing happened with the IMAX cut of TF2 being Wal-Mart only.

[Eric Profancik]

I honestly think he was a little easy on the film. John Connor's presence in the film doesn't really add anything to the finished work, and distracts from the characters the film actually seems to have a vested interest in: Kyle and Marcus.

Reportedly, the role of John Connor was only built up in the script in an attempt to get Bale on board, and in the original draft he was an unseen figure until the final of the film where he was killed. Because nobody know's what Connor actually looks like, Marcus is asked to take his place. Now THAT would have been a vastly superior film.

You're right. In retrospect, maybe I should have gone after the Conner role more, but since it's not the thrust of the film I don't feel it really hurt the movie. I feel that Conner helps move the plot along and does what he needs to do. With the focus on Kyle and Marcus, we're treated to two good actors, acting well in solid roles. And for it being a cinematic abortion, why?

[BrettCullum]

I am not seeing the director's cut on standard DVD at Target or anywhere. Not that the 3 minutes added to the BluRay amounts to much, it really doesn't. Just chaps my ass that the studios are giving us a vastly different no frills product.

I thought Bale switched roles in pre-production. I heard he was going to be Marcus and then asked to be Connor. That was why all the rewrites including the one where Connor survives rather than Marcus.

[the5thghostbuster]

I honestly think he was a little easy on the film. John Connor's presence in the film doesn't really add anything to the finished work, and distracts from the characters the film actually seems to have a vested interest in: Kyle and Marcus.

Reportedly, the role of John Connor was only built up in the script in an attempt to get Bale on board, and in the original draft he was an unseen figure until the final of the film where he was killed. Because nobody know's what Connor actually looks like, Marcus is asked to take his place. Now THAT would have been a vastly superior film.

You're right. In retrospect, maybe I should have gone after the Conner role more, but since it's not the thrust of the film I don't feel it really hurt the movie. I feel that Conner helps move the plot along and does what he needs to do. With the focus on Kyle and Marcus, we're treated to two good actors, acting well in solid roles. And for it being a cinematic abortion, why?

I...don't remember calling it a cinematic abortion. I enjoyed it, more so than the T3. But it just feels like there is a much better movie trying very, very hard to escape from what ended up on screen.

[the5thghostbuster]

I am not seeing the director's cut on standard DVD at Target or anywhere. Not that the 3 minutes added to the BluRay amounts to much, it really doesn't. Just chaps my ass that the studios are giving us a vastly different no frills product.

I thought Bale switched roles in pre-production. I heard he was going to be Marcus and then asked to be Connor. That was why all the rewrites including the one where Connor survives rather than Marcus.

I think, if I am remembering correctly, McG originally offered Bale the role of Marcus and he passed. When McG kept after him, Bale stated that he would be interested in Connor, with the proper writting. I don't think Bale ever signed on to play Marcus, though given the development of the film, who knows, he very well would have.

[Boba Fett]

I am not seeing the director's cut on standard DVD at Target or anywhere. Not that the 3 minutes added to the BluRay amounts to much, it really doesn't. Just chaps my ass that the studios are giving us a vastly different no frills product.

I thought Bale switched roles in pre-production. I heard he was going to be Marcus and then asked to be Connor. That was why all the rewrites including the one where Connor survives rather than Marcus.

http://www.target.com/Terminator-Salvat ... 0salvation

It says PG-13 but the Director's Cut is confirmed to be R. Nowhere else is selling that.

[BrettCullum]

Thanks, Bobba! I couldn't find it anywhere on Target's site... just kept pulling the normal release. Hmmm! Well, glad I found that out... and you all know where to go if you need the extra three minutes and bonus material. I'm glad it's at least out there on DVD somewhere.

[Eric Profancik]

I honestly think he was a little easy on the film. John Connor's presence in the film doesn't really add anything to the finished work, and distracts from the characters the film actually seems to have a vested interest in: Kyle and Marcus.

Reportedly, the role of John Connor was only built up in the script in an attempt to get Bale on board, and in the original draft he was an unseen figure until the final of the film where he was killed. Because nobody know's what Connor actually looks like, Marcus is asked to take his place. Now THAT would have been a vastly superior film.

You're right. In retrospect, maybe I should have gone after the Conner role more, but since it's not the thrust of the film I don't feel it really hurt the movie. I feel that Conner helps move the plot along and does what he needs to do. With the focus on Kyle and Marcus, we're treated to two good actors, acting well in solid roles. And for it being a cinematic abortion, why?

I...don't remember calling it a cinematic abortion. I enjoyed it, more so than the T3. But it just feels like there is a much better movie trying very, very hard to escape from what ended up on screen.

No, you didn't. I misread Dan's post and thought he said it was a cinematic abortion. But he didn't either so it's all good.
Either way, it's a very solid film that rocks on Blu.

[the5thghostbuster]

I honestly think he was a little easy on the film. John Connor's presence in the film doesn't really add anything to the finished work, and distracts from the characters the film actually seems to have a vested interest in: Kyle and Marcus.

Reportedly, the role of John Connor was only built up in the script in an attempt to get Bale on board, and in the original draft he was an unseen figure until the final of the film where he was killed. Because nobody know's what Connor actually looks like, Marcus is asked to take his place. Now THAT would have been a vastly superior film.

You're right. In retrospect, maybe I should have gone after the Conner role more, but since it's not the thrust of the film I don't feel it really hurt the movie. I feel that Conner helps move the plot along and does what he needs to do. With the focus on Kyle and Marcus, we're treated to two good actors, acting well in solid roles. And for it being a cinematic abortion, why?

I...don't remember calling it a cinematic abortion. I enjoyed it, more so than the T3. But it just feels like there is a much better movie trying very, very hard to escape from what ended up on screen.

No, you didn't. I misread Dan's post and thought he said it was a cinematic abortion. But he didn't either so it's all good.
Either way, it's a very solid film that rocks on Blu.

Ah, understood.

[BrettCullum]

My take boils down to it was a good popcorn flick which is about all you can ask for at this point. It is #4 in a series that is over 25 years old. There is no trace of the original director, so to me SALVATION was a success simply by being watchable and sort of cool in places. I applaud the idea to change up the formula finally. The whole "cat and mouse" killer robot stalks future hero was getting old.

My biggest beef though is nothing significant happened. For 115 minutes we got no real developments or new mythos. It was just a "slice of life" in the TERMINATOR universe. It'll date super fast too. I mean 2012 is only three years away.

Why is my toaster looking at me? (oh crap!)

[jameshock]

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[corkbouy]

I'll have what he's having.

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[Dan Mancini]

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[Steve T Power]

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[Jon Mercer]

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From this moment forward, my porn name is Hunch Pounding. That is all.

But is your bedroom a Stygian dreamland?

By Crom, it is!

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