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Postby molly1216 » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:49 pm

i didn't know how else to introduce this..
but it you want a spittake belly laugh
check out the first few minutes of
Tarzan and the Green Goddess (1936) on netflix instant watch.
wherein our globe is rearrange so that either there are african lions, elephants and giraffes in Central America
or the entire country of Guatemala spanish speaking population included is uprooted and planted deep in the African continent....yee haw...american imperialism run amuck.

has anyone else found something so egregiously wrong with a film that you wonder what drugs they were taking?
(films meant to be out an out absurdist not included. and i truly believe that there is/was a country that looked like bavaria where townsfolk spoke english and monsters and gypsies roamed the land)
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Re: sloppiest script nominees

Postby Mark Van Hook » Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:35 pm

I'd nominate just about the entirety of The Dark Knight. Also, Orci and Kurtzman's Star Trek script was a mess.
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Postby molly1216 » Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:16 am

Mark Van Hook wrote:I'd nominate just about the entirety of The Dark Knight. Also, Orci and Kurtzman's Star Trek script was a mess.

please give examples for your nominees
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Re: sloppiest script nominees

Postby Andrew Forbes » Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:18 am

Mark Van Hook wrote:I'd nominate just about the entirety of The Dark Knight.

How do you mean? The Dark Knight was complex and dense, which necessitated a fair bit of blatant expository dialogue, but I certainly wouldn't call it sloppy. It's meticulously layered and plotted.
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Re: sloppiest script nominees

Postby Future Man » Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:24 pm

Kingdom of Heaven for the anachronistically secular worldview of the Crusade-era masked king. And if it was intentional (as I have read), that makes it more egregious.
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Postby molly1216 » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:42 am

Future Man wrote:Kingdom of Heaven for the anachronistically secular worldview of the Crusade-era masked king. And if it was intentional (as I have read), that makes it more egregious.

total agreement..i was laughing all the way through
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Postby Jim_Thomas » Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:35 am

Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Coconuts were not available in England during the Middle Ages.
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Postby molly1216 » Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:22 pm

Jim_Thomas wrote:Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Coconuts were not available in England during the Middle Ages.


"films meant to be out an out absurdist not included."
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Postby Steve T Power » Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:22 pm

molly1216 wrote:
Future Man wrote:Kingdom of Heaven for the anachronistically secular worldview of the Crusade-era masked king. And if it was intentional (as I have read), that makes it more egregious.

total agreement..i was laughing all the way through


Or intentional because there's no way in hell an audience would be able to relate in any way shape or form to the characters if they stuck to authentic Crusade-era behavior. The flick just would not have worked.
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Re: sloppiest script nominees

Postby Future Man » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:25 pm

Steve T Power wrote:
molly1216 wrote:
Future Man wrote:Kingdom of Heaven for the anachronistically secular worldview of the Crusade-era masked king. And if it was intentional (as I have read), that makes it more egregious.

total agreement..i was laughing all the way through


Or intentional because there's no way in hell an audience would be able to relate in any way shape or form to the characters if they stuck to authentic Crusade-era behavior. The flick just would not have worked.


I just don't see in what sense it worked the way it was done. It tries to be authentically historical in every sense but the sentiments of the time. Pretty much ruined it for me.
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Postby Steve T Power » Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:16 pm

Future Man wrote:
Steve T Power wrote:
molly1216 wrote:
Future Man wrote:Kingdom of Heaven for the anachronistically secular worldview of the Crusade-era masked king. And if it was intentional (as I have read), that makes it more egregious.

total agreement..i was laughing all the way through


Or intentional because there's no way in hell an audience would be able to relate in any way shape or form to the characters if they stuck to authentic Crusade-era behavior. The flick just would not have worked.


I just don't see in what sense it worked the way it was done. It tries to be authentically historical in every sense but the sentiments of the time. Pretty much ruined it for me.


Fair enough. But it doesn't really strive to be historically accurate at all, it does strive to tell a fictional story based on history in an environment detailed enough to feel convincing. It is to the Crusades what Gladiator was to Rome ( and Emperor Commodus).

If we had filmed a 3 hour epic with characters true to the 12th century, they would all be speaking French, Arabic, and Latin, they would all be racist arseholes, and most of them probably wouldn't have any hair or teeth. Not exactly a crowd pleaser.
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Re: sloppiest script nominees

Postby Dimwitted » Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:41 am

Complaining about the hysterical epics is pointless. Anyone looking to H'wood for accuracy is misguided, at best. It's like complaining that E. Taylor's costuming wasn't correct in Cleopatra or that the Egyptians could not have made ropes that thick to pull the blocks for the pyramids in the 10 Commandments so the whole movie is ruined.

Movies are entertainment. And every movie is a period piece, as much about the time it was made in as when it was set. Silly geography, ridiculous science, bizarre accents and weird castings all go with the territory. It amazing that any get anything right, not that there's a bunch wrong out there.
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