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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby Steve T Power » Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:15 am

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Steve T Power wrote:The Amazing Spider-Man trailer is now out in the wild.

Looks considerably less flashy than Raimi's outing, but I'm definitely feeling a bit of Deja Vu here.

This one seems to have a good sense of the tone it's going for, even if it is riding the Batman Begins wave. Raimi's movies alternated between effective comedy and atrocious drama. If this script avoids emulating the awful dialogue of the Raimi flicks, I'll be a happy man. I'm optimistic.

Also, Andrew Garfield is exactly the right body-type for this. Oh, and he can actually act.


Yeah, I definitely dig the tone, and it's hitting all of the right notes. Coming from someone who hates the Raimi versions, the fact that I'm even morbidly curious speaks volumes.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby Dan Mancini » Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:46 am

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Andrew Forbes wrote:
Steve T Power wrote:The Amazing Spider-Man trailer is now out in the wild.

Looks considerably less flashy than Raimi's outing, but I'm definitely feeling a bit of Deja Vu here.

This one seems to have a good sense of the tone it's going for, even if it is riding the Batman Begins wave. Raimi's movies alternated between effective comedy and atrocious drama. If this script avoids emulating the awful dialogue of the Raimi flicks, I'll be a happy man. I'm optimistic.

Also, Andrew Garfield is exactly the right body-type for this. Oh, and he can actually act.


Yeah, I definitely dig the tone, and it's hitting all of the right notes. Coming from someone who hates the Raimi versions, the fact that I'm even morbidly curious speaks volumes.

Meh. It looks like an angsty combination of Batman Begins and Raimi's movie with atrocious and gimmicky POV shots. Color me less interested than I was before I saw the trailer...which wasn't all that much considering I'm not fan of the Raimi trilogy either.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby Andrew Forbes » Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:35 pm


How different can POV shots of running across rooftops be? The specific geography, textures and choreography are totally different but, yeah, they're both on tall buildings all right.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby Steve T Power » Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:30 pm

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How different can POV shots of running across rooftops be? The specific geography, textures and choreography are totally different but, yeah, they're both on tall buildings all right.


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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby JoshRode » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:24 am

Completely late to the party, but finally got around to seeing X-Men First Class. Liked it quite a bit, but the character makeup is about eight steps back from the previous incarnation. Beast looked like a blue werewolf out of a film that MST3K might have panned.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby azul017 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:04 pm

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Also, Andrew Garfield is exactly the right body-type for this. Oh, and he can actually act.


I strongly disagree with you on that -- Garfield sells the more agile and wiry aspect of SM, but he still looks too skinny and not solid enough. He can act circles around Maguire, but wrong body type. And it's strange to see the HQ trailer -- the Marvel logo is nowhere to be found and to top it off, I'm getting a strong Twilight vibe from this.

On the other hand, the DVD and Blu-ray editions of X-Men: First Class are up for pre-order. Fox Connect's website even has a free T-shirt available to people who preorder either edition (from 7/21-7/27), plus free ground shipping. Nice to see that and Thor coming out a few days apart from each other.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby Jim_Thomas » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:13 pm

Captain America II, a made for TV "film" made in the 70s, is on SighFie at the moment. It's bad when you remember that 10 year-old you thought it was bad, but holy sweet mother of Christ, this thing is baaaaaaaaaad.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby Jim_Thomas » Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:46 am

Must have been a Cap marathon, 'cause next they showed the 1990 Captain America flick that ended up going straight to video. While it does not achieve the surreal MST3K-levels of badness that the Reb Brown movies did, it's ridiculously earnest environmental message helped made me appreciate the relative subtlety of Superman IV: The Quest for Peace.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby J.M. Vargas » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:41 am

Conan O'Brien has been showing "Captain America" clips on his TBS show for what seems like months now: http://teamcoco.com/video/capt-america-kicks-serious-ass.

It's no "Walker, Texas Ranger" but damn, IT LOOKS GOOOD!' :lol:
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby HGervais » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:01 pm

The Doctor Strange movie is picking up steam. So the question I have is this, if Iron Man, Hulk, Thor and Captain America all assemble the pieces for an Avengers movie, would it not be cool if this Doctor Strange film were the first step towards an eventual Defenders movie?
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby Jim_Thomas » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:20 pm

HGervais wrote:The Doctor Strange movie is picking up steam. So the question I have is this, if Iron Man, Hulk, Thor and Captain America all assemble the pieces for an Avengers movie, would it not be cool if this Doctor Strange film were the first step towards an eventual Defenders movie?
Dunno, but I'm thinking Guillermo del Toro should direct Doctor Strange.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby azul017 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:22 pm

I've heard rumors that Patrick Dempsey is lobbying for the title role of Doctor Strange. I know people are going to crack "Dr. Dreamy is now Dr. Strange" jokes, but if Dempsey ever is up for the role I think he could a decent job. It'd be out-of-the-box casting, but I'd give him a chance.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby HGervais » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:58 pm

If we really are at the point where Marvel Studios are prepping movies like Doctor Strange & Ant-Man for production AND they are starting to develop their space based heroes such as Guardians of the Galaxy, well, that is a pretty cool place to be.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby Dunnyman » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:13 am

HGervais wrote:The Doctor Strange movie is picking up steam. So the question I have is this, if Iron Man, Hulk, Thor and Captain America all assemble the pieces for an Avengers movie, would it not be cool if this Doctor Strange film were the first step towards an eventual Defenders movie?

Cast Amanda Seyfried as Valkyrie and James Franco as Nighthawk and you got a pretty good movie...but who could play Namor?
However, after the tiniest glimpse of one of Marvel's first characters in Captain America, when do we get an Invaders movie?
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby HGervais » Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:00 am

It appears that Game of Thrones director Brian Kirk is the leading contender to direct Marvel's Thor II.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby azul017 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:34 pm

HGervais wrote:It appears that Game of Thrones director Brian Kirk is the leading contender to direct Marvel's Thor II.


I think he's a really good pick. Game of Thrones is high-caliber stuff, and the tone is just right for something like Thor 2. Now if they get some more writers to rewrite Payne's script and get Natalie Portman back, I'll be happy.

On another note, Sony has already slated an Amazing Spider-Man sequel for May 2, 2014. They're either supremely confident in this movie (which has another year before it comes out), or they want to reclaim their spot from Marvel Studios.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby Steve T Power » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:03 pm

azul017 wrote:
HGervais wrote:It appears that Game of Thrones director Brian Kirk is the leading contender to direct Marvel's Thor II.


I think he's a really good pick. Game of Thrones is high-caliber stuff, and the tone is just right for something like Thor 2. Now if they get some more writers to rewrite Payne's script and get Natalie Portman back, I'll be happy.

On another note, Sony has already slated an Amazing Spider-Man sequel for May 2, 2014. They're either supremely confident in this movie (which has another year before it comes out), or they want to reclaim their spot from Marvel Studios.


It's Spider-man, it will make money.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby azul017 » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:44 am

I think people grossly overestimate how well a Spidey reboot will fare, especially since the trilogy is still fresh in the public eye. Now, had Sony did this after the movie's opening weekend...

On the other hand, Sony claiming a prime summer 2014 spot spurred Disney to set release dates for two Marvel movies. One for May 16 and the other June 24th, but they haven't revealed the films' titles.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby HGervais » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:13 pm

azul017 wrote:On the other hand, Sony claiming a prime summer 2014 spot spurred Disney to set release dates for two Marvel movies. One for May 16 and the other June 24th, but they haven't revealed the films' titles.

Disney actually set aside three dates in the summer of 2014, the third of which is for an unnamed Pixar movie.

As for Spiderman. It will open huge and these days that is almost enough.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby azul017 » Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:30 pm

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As for Spiderman. It will open huge and these days that is almost enough.


I think one of us will be wrong next year. People who didn't like SM-3 are skeptical about it, as well as those who liked all three films. Sony has its work cut out for them, trying to market Spider-man as a new, edgier superhero.

Now, if this reboot was SM-4 instead, you'd be right on the money. I think people are grossly overestimating how the reboot will fare with the GA and critics next year, time will tell. But either way, it will have its butt handed to it by The Dark Knight Rises after two weeks.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby HGervais » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:01 am

I think what you fail to account for is the recognition factor. Yes the costume is slightly different and yes the actor is new but people know Spiderman and people have flocked to Spiderman pictures in the past. They are going to respond that first weekend, at least, because they know and like the brand.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby Steve T Power » Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:49 am

HGervais wrote:I think what you fail to account for is the recognition factor. Yes the costume is slightly different and yes the actor is new but people know Spiderman and people have flocked to Spiderman pictures in the past. They are going to respond that first weekend, at least, because they know and like the brand.


Ditto that - If this flick doesn't hit at LEAST 400 million international i'll be shocked and apalled.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby azul017 » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:31 am

The godawful trailer for Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance. Looks like this will make the first look like Citizen Kane.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/artic ... ce-trailer

But let me put it that I have never been a fan of Neveldine/Taylor either.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby Andrew Forbes » Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:33 pm

azul017 wrote:The godawful trailer for Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance. Looks like this will make the first look like Citizen Kane.

This looks about a thousand times better than the first. Not that it looks good, mind you, but this one looks like it was made by someone who at least understands which way to point the camera.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby HGervais » Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:10 pm

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azul017 wrote:The godawful trailer for Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance. Looks like this will make the first look like Citizen Kane.

This looks about a thousand times better than the first. Not that it looks good, mind you, but this one looks like it was made by someone who at least understands which way to point the camera.

I'd agree with that. My interest in it will increase about 1000% though it turns out being rated R. Ghost Rider should be dark, moody, creepy & violent. Still, that Crank style energy is present in the trailer and I don't think that is a bad thing.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby mavrach » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:47 am

Spider-Man would've been less of a risk if they just skipped the origin story and just made like this was just another entry in the series. Yes, it's a reboot, but any time a new director takes over an existing series, that can be considered just as much of a reboot as any. Just make a new story and have Spidey fight a new villain.

And yes it will definitely make money even if it's bad. The Star Wars prequels and Indiana Jones & The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull were all blockbusters regardless of their quality.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby azul017 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:34 am

mavrach wrote:Spider-Man would've been less of a risk if they just skipped the origin story and just made like this was just another entry in the series. Yes, it's a reboot, but any time a new director takes over an existing series, that can be considered just as much of a reboot as any. Just make a new story and have Spidey fight a new villain.


Yeah. That approach I don't mind so much.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby azul017 » Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:57 pm

Amazon has preliminary artwork up for the DVD, Blu-ray combo, and limited edition 3D combo pack releases of Captain America.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_ ... st+avenger

The DVD and regular Blu-ray combo artwork is horrible. Sad to see that the 3D combo pack is the only release with the excellent one-sheet artwork. Come on Paramount, change it up.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby corkbouy » Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:28 am

Still holding out hope that the fantastic retro poster with Cap punching Hitler from a few months back will go on sale. :cry:
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby Dunnyman » Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:51 am

corkbouy wrote:Still holding out hope that the fantastic retro poster with Cap punching Hitler from a few months back will go on sale. :cry:

I'll second that. Go ahead, put it out as part of a double dip, I'll still snag it.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby HGervais » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:51 am

So The Avengers is getting ready to wrap up principal photography in New York City and here are some set pictures
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby HGervais » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:28 pm

Marvel's post-Avengers plans start to take shape. The Inhumans & The Guardians of the Galaxy? Oh hell yes!
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby HGervais » Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:07 pm

I guess as the first real trailer it's kind of okay. Clearly Joss Whedon has found his perfect actor with Robert Downey Jr. And I am kind of encouraged by the first look of this Hulk. Otherwise the thing just feels rushed.
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Postby azul017 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:46 pm

It doesn't feel rushed to me. The way the trailer is cut suggests ILM was pressed to deliver quick finished shots of RDJ in the suit, but other than that, it looks like BIG ASS FUN. The fact Whedon also wrote and directed some of the best television episodes ever shows that he knows what's he doing, plot-wise.
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Postby azul017 » Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:23 pm

Jenkins officially on 'Thor 2', gets pushed to November 2013 date

http://www.deadline.com/2011/10/toldja- ... -director/

But Natalie Portman and Tom Hiddleston back? Hell yes.

I hate all these sexist comments pouring in about Jenkins and how Thor "doesn't need to have a woman's touch" or "turn it into a Lifetime version of a comic-book movie". I hope she proves these naysayers wrong. She's not Catherine Hardwicke or Lexi Alexander, people.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby J.M. Vargas » Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:28 pm

"Criminal Minds" creator developing "Punisher" TV series for Fox: http://www.deadline.com/2011/10/fox-buys-the-punisher-series-adaptation-from-ed-bernero-marvel-with-put-pilot/.
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Postby Steve T Power » Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:12 am

J.M. Vargas wrote:"Criminal Minds" creator developing "Punisher" TV series for Fox: http://www.deadline.com/2011/10/fox-buys-the-punisher-series-adaptation-from-ed-bernero-marvel-with-put-pilot/.
The Punisher is described as an hour-long procedural with a Marvel signature and a new take on one of comic book giant’s iconic characters, Frank Castle, a rising star detective with the NYC Police Department who moonlights as the vigilante Punisher seeking justice for those the system has failed.


See, I've always felt that Frank would work best as a gritty TV series, but this "NYPD cop thing?" NO! Just NO! Why the hell do you need to change the origin? What possible freaking difference would it make?!?

Frank was a war vet and strong Christian who's family was wiped out by random violence. He's forced to turn to drastic measures when the system fails him. It's a conflicted decision, one at odds with a man who had been on the verge of being ordained as a priest until he randomly met the love of his life and decided on a family instead. That's dramatic gold right there.

It's incredibly frustrating, as a huge fan of the character, to see three disparate attempts that get certain aspects so right:

- The Dolph version nailed the "faith" aspect, and not much else.
- The Jane version came closest, lifting some stuff verbatim from "Punisher: Year One" and ruining it with all the Garth Ennis "Welcome Back Frank" BS, and the butchering of the origin.
- The Stevenson version NAILS the character, and the "pursuing detectives" subplot, but flushes everything else with it's focus on comic-book visuals, cartoonish villains, and an over-reliance on gore factor.

Ideally we'd get Ray Stevenson in a gritty and realistic portrayal of a man driven to drastic means through random happenstance, who struggles with his own inner demons (PTSD and his crumbling faith) and a dedicated Police officer driven to take him down, but in constant conflict with his/her own ideals of whether or not what Frank is doing is right or wrong.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby HGervais » Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:57 am

In a perfect world The Punisher would be set in 1970s NYC. It could incorporate Frank's Vietnam experiences with a New York that was, at the time, a city being consumed from the inside by crime & filth while also allowing Frank to operate in a world where he could realistically get away with the stuff he was doing.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby Steve T Power » Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:27 am

HGervais wrote:In a perfect world The Punisher would be set in 1970s NYC. It could incorporate Frank's Vietnam experiences with a New York that was, at the time, a city being consumed from the inside by crime & filth while also allowing Frank to operate in a world where he could realistically get away with the stuff he was doing.


And the 70's setting could easily be a marketing point! :)

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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby HGervais » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:50 pm

Ang Lee wanted Hulk to look like Tree Of Life The headline says it all. Personally I'm still kind of giggling.
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Re: Marvel Films Discussion Thread

Postby Andrew Forbes » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:44 am

HGervais wrote:Ang Lee wanted Hulk to look like Tree Of Life The headline says it all. Personally I'm still kind of giggling.

Why? It's completely true. Hulk was all sprouting plants, molecule-sized nebulae and extreme-close-ups to the point of abstraction.
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