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Postby J.M. Vargas » Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:02 pm

... 'The Thin Man' starring Johnny Depp and directed by Rob Marshall (written by David Koepp) is in the works: http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/david-koepp-takes-on-the-thin-man-for-johnny-depp-and-rob-marshall/. Apparently it's a passion project for Depp, who is producing with his company and is pushing for this to be his follow-up project after the whole "Lone Ranger" thing gets sorted out.
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Re: Move over William Powell and Myrna Loy. A remake of...

Postby cdouglas » Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:39 pm

You lost me at "Rob Marshall."
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Re: Move over William Powell and Myrna Loy. A remake of...

Postby Future Man » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:01 pm

Now there's an original that could stand to be improved upon. In my memory 2/3 of the screen time is devoted to someone or other pouring a drink.
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Re: Move over William Powell and Myrna Loy. A remake of...

Postby Dunnyman » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:14 pm

aaaaand the End Times are upon us, folks. Glad to have known y'all....
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Re: Move over William Powell and Myrna Loy. A remake of...

Postby Jim_Thomas » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:25 am

Future Man wrote:Now there's an original that could stand to be improved upon. In my memory 2/3 of the screen time is devoted to someone or other pouring a drink.
And that is a large part of it's charm.
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Re: Move over William Powell and Myrna Loy. A remake of...

Postby molly1216 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:44 am

we know he can play the part
but if they cast some bloody talentless waif half his age i will vomit.
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Re: Move over William Powell and Myrna Loy. A remake of...

Postby Andrew Forbes » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:00 am

Dunnyman wrote:aaaaand the End Times are upon us, folks. Glad to have known y'all....

Well as long as we're getting predictably, prematurely hysterical. Remakes bad! George Luca$! Hollyweird no ideas! CGI! 3D!

Meanwhile, countless other options exist in foreign, independent and mainstream American cinema. And the original Thin Man—with its phenomenal writing, iconic performances, dull mystery and flat direction—remains.
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Re: Move over William Powell and Myrna Loy. A remake of...

Postby Dunnyman » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:23 am

Andrew Forbes wrote:
Dunnyman wrote:aaaaand the End Times are upon us, folks. Glad to have known y'all....

Well as long as we're getting predictably, prematurely hysterical. Remakes bad! George Luca$! Hollyweird no ideas! CGI! 3D!

Meanwhile, countless other options exist in foreign, independent and mainstream American cinema. And the original Thin Man—with its phenomenal writing, iconic performances, dull mystery and flat direction—remains.

Hysterical? Two sentences?
Funny, I've never ever said that all remakes are bad. Nor have I ever said that 3D or CGI is bad. Lighten up dude, t'was a joke.
Nothing wrong with remaking something that was OK or even second rate and making it better. Remaking great things tends to come out poorly because trying to capture the lightning in a bottle that made the first so special is bloody difficult to do. An excellent example of my point is the recent David Suchet version of Murder On The Orient Express. The production values for the Poirot series have been uniformly excellent, the casts have all been good, and while the scripts tend to make some changes I'm not fond of, they've done pretty good work for the most part. Yet, it lacked in so many ways. Suchet was excellent, but the co-stars didn't have the combination of star power and sheer talent that the 74 version did, and it made the remake seem flat compared to the superb original.
Now is that hysterical? Seems to be well reasoned.
My objections to a Thin Man remake are based on the same rationale, 11 freaking days to shoot that first movie with 'One Take Woody' at the helm, the amazing chemistry between Loy and Powell and possibly the greatest animal actor in history? A great story by one of America's greatest writers? The drinking was a huge part of it yes, because America was drinking like never before due to the repeal of Prohibition. So where can they go wrong? I'll take some guesses, shall I?
1. They'll cut back on the drinking because "they don't want to set a bad example for people or glorify alcohol abuse". There goes a large part of the charm.
2. They will cast the co-star based on bankability, unlike Van Dyke's insistence on the unexpected Loy because he realized how funny she could be in the right situation. So we'll get Emma Stone or some other equally bland actress that can't even come close to keeping up with Depp who can command the screen at any moment. Loy and Powell were one of the greatest teams in cinema history for a reason. They had incredible chemistry and neither one could dominate the other onscreen.
3. They'll change the period setting. Splendid. Nick Charles following up the clue on his iPad.
4. Instead of finding a gifted canine actor, Asta will be a cute CGI creation because it'll be easier.
5. They'll have some overdone plotline with way too much going on, and ignore the fact that it was the bickering/lovey dove between the two leads and the jokes that were important, not the fairly slight plots.

Oh yeah, for the whole "remakes are the greatest idea in history" crowd, how'd the recent Robin Hood work out for y'all? I was gonna go see it but it was out of my theater in three weeks. Lost over 100 million dollars on that "great idea", they did.
Someone or other around here said that would happen but they were probably just hysterical.
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Re: Move over William Powell and Myrna Loy. A remake of...

Postby Andrew Forbes » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:16 am

Dunnyman wrote:aaaaand the End Times are upon us, folks. Glad to have known y'all....

How did I ever miss all that nuance?
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Re: Move over William Powell and Myrna Loy. A remake of...

Postby Steve T Power » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:19 am

Dunnyman wrote:
Oh yeah, for the whole "remakes are the greatest idea in history" crowd, how'd the recent Robin Hood work out for y'all? I was gonna go see it but it was out of my theater in three weeks. Lost over 100 million dollars on that "great idea", they did.
Someone or other around here said that would happen but they were probably just hysterical.


Robin Hood:
Production budget: $200 million

Domestic Total: $105,269,730
Foreign Total: $216,400,011

Total Gross: $321,669,741

Add DVD/Blu-ray and pay per view and on demand totals to that... and well... you see where i'm going.

Also - the flick was actually pretty damn good.
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Re: Move over William Powell and Myrna Loy. A remake of...

Postby Andrew Forbes » Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:43 pm

Don't bother, Steve. If it was good, he would have seen it.
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Re: Move over William Powell and Myrna Loy. A remake of...

Postby Steve T Power » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:53 pm

Andrew Forbes wrote:Don't bother, Steve. If it was good, he would have seen it.


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