Exactly. All kick-ass movies but all action movies with a minimum of CGI and all with much better screenplays. I'm all for directors working out of their usual box & comfort zones but Campbell was just not the guy for the job in this case.Steve T Power wrote:Yeah, the man who gave us the action/adventure extravaganzas that were Goldeneye, Casino Royale and The Mask of Zorro, which were all awesome (no condescension intended), doesn't exactly scream "big budget FX driven super hero flick" to me.
molly1216 wrote:Thor is there a section of this movie missing? the guy spends five minutes on earth and learns humility? he shares a couple of car rides with a woman who drives badly and falls in love? and just exactly what drugs was Stan Lee on the week he created this character? just exactly how do they travel through universes? an ice bridge?
molly1216 wrote:Thor is there a section of this movie missing? the guy spends five minutes on earth and learns humility? he shares a couple of car rides with a woman who drives badly and falls in love? and just exactly what drugs was Stan Lee on the week he created this character? just exactly how do they travel through universes? an ice bridge?
mavrach wrote:Lady Vengeance - This suffers from the same issue that Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance had - It's not Oldboy. It's not a fair comparison at all, but when you walk in with Oldboy, then hear it's part of a trilogy, there are high expectations. I need to see both of the other entries again now that I know what to expect, because they were both perfectly fine movies that I would recommend to anybody.
Dunnyman wrote:molly1216 wrote:Thor is there a section of this movie missing? the guy spends five minutes on earth and learns humility? he shares a couple of car rides with a woman who drives badly and falls in love? and just exactly what drugs was Stan Lee on the week he created this character? just exactly how do they travel through universes? an ice bridge?
Jeez, you never read Origins of Marvel Comics? Lee wanted someone stronger than the Hulk, smarter than Mr. Fantastic, and could fly better than the Human Torch. His difficulty was the only character/person who could accomplish this was God, but figured there was ZERO possibility of featuring God without offending just about everyone, and under deadline thought that God wouldn't work, but a god could. 90% of it was based pretty accurately on actual Norse mythology. A tad more development would have been nice, sure, but I've resigned myself to good sized chunks missing from superhero movies at this point. The lone exception being Captain America where they freaking nailed the character, his motivations, etc. A few glitches as far as costume, etc, but no major quibbles.
molly1216 wrote:Dunnyman wrote:molly1216 wrote:Thor is there a section of this movie missing? the guy spends five minutes on earth and learns humility? he shares a couple of car rides with a woman who drives badly and falls in love? and just exactly what drugs was Stan Lee on the week he created this character? just exactly how do they travel through universes? an ice bridge?
Jeez, you never read Origins of Marvel Comics? Lee wanted someone stronger than the Hulk, smarter than Mr. Fantastic, and could fly better than the Human Torch. His difficulty was the only character/person who could accomplish this was God, but figured there was ZERO possibility of featuring God without offending just about everyone, and under deadline thought that God wouldn't work, but a god could. 90% of it was based pretty accurately on actual Norse mythology. A tad more development would have been nice, sure, but I've resigned myself to good sized chunks missing from superhero movies at this point. The lone exception being Captain America where they freaking nailed the character, his motivations, etc. A few glitches as far as costume, etc, but no major quibbles.
but that's NOT IN THE MOVIE.
this movie is about a hunky bottle blond with an anger management disorder who gets kicked out of the house
he moves in with a girl who actually HAS a job and mooches off her.
until his biker buddies come to town and break up the place.
he finally goes home where his father has to pick up the pieces of the mess he made.
molly1216 wrote:what about this is super?
Andrew Forbes wrote:mavrach wrote:Lady Vengeance - This suffers from the same issue that Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance had - It's not Oldboy. It's not a fair comparison at all, but when you walk in with Oldboy, then hear it's part of a trilogy, there are high expectations. I need to see both of the other entries again now that I know what to expect, because they were both perfectly fine movies that I would recommend to anybody.
Oldboy is actually my least favorite of the three and Lady Vengeance my favorite. I realize I am in the minority.
Steve T Power wrote:The Crow - It has been quite a while since the last time I watched this (maybe 2003?) but I'm sure i've seen it well into double digits (including twice in theatre on opening day - long story). Was great going back to an old favorite and still really enjoying the hell out of it in spite of a few clunky bits. It looks absolutely amazing on Blu-Ray though, vibrant colors, amazing detail, and beautiful darks - one of the best looking 90's flicks i've seen on the format - that opening miniature shot was gobsmacking, like Blade Runner: Final cut impressive.
Steve T Power wrote:Sherlock - First episode - This is one freaking AWESOME show!
J.M. Vargas wrote:^^^ You're only supposed to spoiler the Leo DeCaprio movies in which he doesn't die. Leo dying is pretty much assumed to happen in all his movies unless otherwise-noted.
unless it's a foreign film, i am VERY VERY suspicious of trailers with few words. it generally is a bad bad signmavrach wrote:Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen - The first movie worked for me because it had the excitement that my childhood heroes were coming, and nailed the sense of awe for me. Now in this one, there here from the start and they didn't even bother to start developing any of the Transformers as characters. Instead, they're more like elements that occur around the human characters.
molly1216 wrote:Captain America ....half a reel into it, and all i can say is Thor is a POS. This is 1000% better.
molly1216 wrote:who is Hugo Weaving trying to imitate? my ear is telling me Christopher Weitz?
Dan Mancini wrote:molly1216 wrote:who is Hugo Weaving trying to imitate? my ear is telling me Christopher Weitz?
My mind went to Werner Herzog.
J.M. Vargas wrote:molly1216 wrote:Captain America ....half a reel into it, and all i can say is Thor is a POS. This is 1000% better.
By that equation/measurement, how much better does that make "Captain America" over Johnson's own "The Rocketeer"? 10% better? Twice as good? About the same?I honestly cannot think of a movie in which Tommy Lee Jones has been this perfect at the deadpan delivery thing since his "Fugitive" breakthrough role. Toby Jones also brings the best out of Jones (their once scene together is gold) as well as Weaving; heck, the movie has wall-to-wall supporting thesps (Neal McDonough) that complement the leads so damn well you feel they stole their share from other superhero flicks (i.e. Thor's). It's a fun flick that needs a musical hook (Silvestri's score is crap, IMHO) to be just about the perfect superhero flick. Hard to believe "Thor" beat "Captain America" in total box office sales by almost $100 million.
Steve T Power wrote:J.M. Vargas wrote:molly1216 wrote:Captain America ....half a reel into it, and all i can say is Thor is a POS. This is 1000% better.
By that equation/measurement, how much better does that make "Captain America" over Johnson's own "The Rocketeer"? 10% better? Twice as good? About the same?I honestly cannot think of a movie in which Tommy Lee Jones has been this perfect at the deadpan delivery thing since his "Fugitive" breakthrough role. Toby Jones also brings the best out of Jones (their once scene together is gold) as well as Weaving; heck, the movie has wall-to-wall supporting thesps (Neal McDonough) that complement the leads so damn well you feel they stole their share from other superhero flicks (i.e. Thor's). It's a fun flick that needs a musical hook (Silvestri's score is crap, IMHO) to be just about the perfect superhero flick. Hard to believe "Thor" beat "Captain America" in total box office sales by almost $100 million.
I honestly think i'm broken. Captain America worked for me about half the time, but the other half the time I was bored stupid. There are essentially only two real set pieces, and both of them sort of fell flat (they just didn't have that epic ww-II scope that I was looking for) and the use of montage for pretty much every cool looking sequence from the trailer was a huge let down. That train scene (the 'Bucky' one) was horrible, and there was an almost "checklist" nature to the way the flick played out Cap's origin, like it was going through the motions. Evans and Weaving were great, and the film looked fan-freakin'-tastic, but overall there was nowhere near enough Nazi-Punching for my tastes.
On the flipside, I had an absolute riot with Thor.
Steve T Power wrote:I honestly think i'm broken. Captain America worked for me about half the time, but the other half the time I was bored stupid.
Dan Mancini wrote:Superman? Awesome. Superman II? Totally blows.
J.M. Vargas wrote:Dan Mancini wrote:Superman? Awesome. Superman II? Totally blows.
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Dan Mancini wrote:
So, I dug Captain America precisely because it was more interested in Steve Rogers than in Nazi punching. Where some people thought the Red Skull was under-utilized, I thought Johnston wisely prevented him from stealing the show. He got just enough screen time to be a credible threat without bogging the movie down with scenery chewing.
I also dug Thor. Thor learns humility from 5 minutes on Earth? Nope. Thor learns humility from believing Odin is dead, coming to understand that he was rightly banished, and choosing to sacrifice his own life so that the Destroyer doesn't devastate Midgard. Is the romance rendered in shorthand? Sure, but with the exception of Superman, isn't that always the case in comic book flicks? The flick's not really about the romance. Bottom line, Portman plays a hot misfit nerd who's transcending the scientific thought of her peers and seeing the universe as Thor knows it to be. Why wouldn't he kinda fall for her? And I dug how the movie put a scifi spin on elements of Norse mythology in order to bring them in line with the more realistically grounded scifi elements in Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk. Plus, Mjolnir was badass. So there's that.
mavrach wrote:Wild at Heart - I love David Lynch's brand of weirdness, but this movie felt like it was trying too hard to be weird, as opposed to simply being weird naturally. Nicholas Cage's & Willem Dafoe's performances felt like they were on an SNL skit instead of an actual movie.
I was interested in Laura Dern's performance here. I've only seen her in two other movies, but she's been an innocent in both - she was Spielbergian wide-eyed wonder in Jurassic Park, and in Blue Velvet she represented normalcy. Here she's unrestrained and spends half the movie topless. A big shock to the system to see her like this.
Dan Mancini wrote:J.M. Vargas wrote:Dan Mancini wrote:Superman? Awesome. Superman II? Totally blows.
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Keep telling' yourself that, but Superman II lacks nearly everything that makes the original an actual good movie. And that includes either cut of II.
Epic scale? No.
Interesting character development? Negatory.
Firm grasp on the proper tone? Absolutely not.
Groundbreaking SFX? Not even close.
Gorgeous, varied cinematography? Not so much.
Charm? Heck no.
Demonstrable understanding of the core of its main character? Uh-uh.
Mitchell Hattaway wrote:Dan Mancini wrote:J.M. Vargas wrote:Dan Mancini wrote:Superman? Awesome. Superman II? Totally blows.
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Keep telling' yourself that, but Superman II lacks nearly everything that makes the original an actual good movie. And that includes either cut of II.
Epic scale? No.
Interesting character development? Negatory.
Firm grasp on the proper tone? Absolutely not.
Groundbreaking SFX? Not even close.
Gorgeous, varied cinematography? Not so much.
Charm? Heck no.
Demonstrable understanding of the core of its main character? Uh-uh.
Preach it. Even had the rest of the movie been friggin' awesome, the second scene in the diner would have killed it. Superman doesn't do that kind of crap.
Andrew Forbes wrote:Halloween II (2009, director's cut). I actually watched this a couple of weeks ago and wanted to wait before commenting. I wasn't able to organize my thoughts until now, and even this long after viewing, I'm still not sure how to articulate how I felt about the movie. You know, regardless of whether you think the movie is trash or treasure, you can't deny that Zombie went right to the wall to produce something as original as possible within the framework of an established franchise. I'm inclined to call this some kind of masterpiece. It comes as close as any movie I can recall to recreating the sensation of an inescapable nightmare. Despite its alleged crimes against the series, it probably comes as close to the original portrayal of Michael as an embodiment of The Bogeyman as anything since. Rather than a manifestation of vaguely defined evil, however, he's an awakened force of dormant trauma who has to be dealt with every few years, even as life goes on. Does the movie have flaws? Hell yes. But I'll be damned if I didn't find myself riveted to my couch as it played out. I often say that I'd rather see an ambitious failure than a formulaic success, and this is nothing if not ambitious.
Attrage wrote:mavrach wrote:Wild at Heart - I love David Lynch's brand of weirdness, but this movie felt like it was trying too hard to be weird, as opposed to simply being weird naturally. Nicholas Cage's & Willem Dafoe's performances felt like they were on an SNL skit instead of an actual movie.
I was interested in Laura Dern's performance here. I've only seen her in two other movies, but she's been an innocent in both - she was Spielbergian wide-eyed wonder in Jurassic Park, and in Blue Velvet she represented normalcy. Here she's unrestrained and spends half the movie topless. A big shock to the system to see her like this.
I havent seen Wild at Heart, but that sounds disappointing...usually David Lynch manages to be weird without trying at all (just watch pretty much any interview with him...he's a very strange guy...). There's a big part of me that still wishes he had of agreed to go ahead and direct Return of the Jedi. Oh, what a wild, wacky movie that would have been.
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